Russian TLIG pilgrimage

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by David, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. David

    David Well-Known Member

    Ashfin's full testimony in Russia is now available:

     
  2. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting this David. I watched it because other pilgrims had told me his talk was amazing.

    But I have to admit that I am disappointed with this video since there are several cuts that leave out many details of his conversion.

    Is there an uncut version of his testimony? If so, I'd love to see it.
     
  3. David

    David Well-Known Member

    In a strange way I also thought the video hadn't quite captured Ashfin's presentation as it seemed on the day. But I'm not quite sure what you mean by the 'cuts'. I noticed one or two little moments were not there but nothing significant was missing that I'm aware of.
     
  4. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    I was going to post all the cuts that I noticed, but thought it would be too much information so I deleted the details that I had noted. Now I'll have to watch the video again.

    I do remember the snip @ 11:05 mark right after Afshin says he told God that he would accept whatever truth he gave him to explain why Jesus would appear to a Muslim. The video cuts and resumes when he explains that a figure is standing next to him.

    My TLIG friend gave me details about his testimony that I do not hear in the video (for example : about Afshin taunting victims who were being hanged), so I'll watch the video again and note other cuts & post the information later.

    With the cuts, I'd say that this video isn't one of his best testimonies that is on the internet. It's really a shame to shorten it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
  5. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    I just watched it again and here are the places where I noticed cuts:

    At 4:07, 4:39, 4:45, 5:08 (after he says he has 30 illegal passports), 10:08 (after his teacher tells him not to ask too many questions), 10:41 (after he hears voice that says "why would Jesus help you?"), 11:05 (after he tells God that he'll accept whatever truth He reveals to him), 13:30, 18:28 (seems like they cut applause), 19:45 (after he tells Jesus to send him to convert sinners)

    And finally, the video cuts off what Vassula has to say at the very end of the talk.

    All I can say is that the video leaves me wanting to hear the parts that were cut!
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
  6. David

    David Well-Known Member

    Well, andree, you obviously have access to a complete, uncut, recording of Ashfin's testimony! Is it just the audio or is it a video?

    Let me just say that it is Vassula herself who has chosen the bits to remove. I suspect they are well chosen.
     
  7. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    I have watched a few of his testimonies on the internet, like this one, which is good, and this one too. They are interesting because he gives varying details of his life and conversion. And I just noticed this recent video testimony done in Greece, with Vassula sitting up front next to him! I haven't watched that last one yet though, but it seems to be a TLIG meeting, so I will definitely watch it when I have time.
     
  8. davidtlig

    davidtlig Administrator

    Here is a video report of the meeting which took place between leaders of the different Christian denominations and religions attending the Russian pilgrimage and a representative of Patriarch Kirill at the Russian Patriarchate:

     
  9. David

    David Well-Known Member

    You can now view the full Russia pilgrimage magazine that contains all the talks presentations and reports about the pilgrimage, including plenty of photographs.

    The magazine link is available at: http://www.tligpilgrimages.org/russia2.html

     

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