Posters against Pope Francis in Rome

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by David, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. David

    David Well-Known Member

    The following news should be read in conjunction with the other thread about the Knights of Malta (http://www.tlig.net/ForoForum/index...-cardinal-burke-to-clean-out-freemasons.3875/)

    These posters needed some organisation to distribute them. They have appeared just as Pope Francis has taken significant steps with the Knights of Malta.



    Conservative criticism intensifies against Pope Francis
    By Associated Press

    4 February 2017

    VATICAN CITY (AP) — Conservative criticism of Pope Francis intensified Saturday after his intervention in the Knights of Malta order, with posters appearing around Rome citing his actions against conservative Catholics and asking: "Where's your mercy?"

    The posters appeared on the same day that Francis cemented his authority over the Knights by naming a top Vatican archbishop, Angelo Becciu, to be his special delegate to the ancient aristocratic order.

    Francis gave Becciu, the No. 2 in the Vatican secretariat of state, "all necessary powers" to help lay the groundwork for a new constitution for the order, lead the spiritual renewal of its professed knights and prepare for the election of a new grand master, expected in three months.


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    A paper sheet with writing in Italian reading "Illigal Posting" covers an anti-Pope Francis poster in central Rome, Saturday, Feb. 4, 2017. On Saturday, posters appeared around Rome featuring a stern-looking Francis and questioning "Where's your mercy?" It referenced the ¿decapitation¿ of the Knights of Malta, Cardinal Raymond Burke's marginalization and other actions Francis has taken against conservative, tradition-minded groups. (AP Photo/Beatrice Larco)

    The Vatican's intervention with the sovereign group had provided fuel for Francis' conservative critics, who until Saturday had largely confined their concern with his mercy-over-morals papacy to blogs, interviews and conferences.

    On Saturday, dozens of posters appeared around Rome featuring a stern-looking Francis and referencing the "decapitation" of the Knights and other actions Francis has taken against conservative, tradition-minded groups.

    Within hours, the city of Rome had plastered over the posters. Police launched an investigation into the conservative circles believed responsible, aided by closed-circuit cameras, the ANSA news agency said.

    The posters, written in Roman dialect, also cited the way Francis had "ignored cardinals," a reference to the four cardinals who have publicly asked Francis to clarify whether divorced and civilly remarried Catholics can receive Communion.

    Francis hasn't responded directly, though he has made it clear he favors case-by-case allowances.

    One of the four cardinals is Raymond Burke, a conservative American whom the pope removed as the Vatican's supreme court judge in 2014 and named to be his liaison with the Knights of Malta. Burke, a staunch defender of Catholic doctrine on sexual morals, has become Francis' most vocal critic and was instrumental in the Knights' saga.

    With Burke's support, the Knights' grand master Fra' Matthew Festing sacked the grand chancellor, Albert von Boeselager, over a condom scandal. After learning that the ouster had been done in his name, Francis effectively took over the order. He asked Festing to resign, restored Boeselager to his position, declared all the Knights' sovereign decisions on the matter "null and void" and appointed Becciu to help run the order temporarily.

    Becciu's mandate as the pope's "exclusive spokesman" with the order now confirms Burke's marginalization.

    In his letter Saturday, Francis said Becciu would work in "close collaboration" with the No. 2 official who technically is in charge at the Knights. But he stressed: "I delegate to you all the necessary powers to decide possible questions that might emerge in carrying out the mandate I have given you."

    At a press conference this week, Boeselager insisted the order's sovereignty was never in question during the standoff, though he acknowledged the Vatican's strident statements had led to such misunderstanding that he planned to convene ambassadors accredited to the order to explain.

    The Knights are a unique organization: An aristocratic lay religious order that traces its history to the Crusades, the order runs a vast humanitarian organization around the world involving over 100,000 staff and volunteers. The order also enjoys sovereign status and has diplomatic relations with over 100 countries, the Holy See included.

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    A passerby lifts a paper sheet covering an anti-Pope Francis poster to read it, in central Rome, Saturday, Feb. 4, 2017. On Saturday, posters appeared around Rome featuring a stern-looking Francis and questioning "Where's your mercy?" It referenced the ¿decapitation¿ of the Knights of Malta, Cardinal Raymond Burke's marginalization and other actions Francis has taken against conservative, tradition-minded groups. (AP Photo/Beatrice Larco)

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...eeded-powers-Knights-Malta.html#ixzz4XkA7Myfv
     
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  2. Radhe

    Radhe Well-Known Member

    Noticing a lot of slanderous stuff about the Pope on the net - even from well meaning people.
    Seems to me authentic christianity clashes with the world and its isms and schisms. At times we are at odds
    with all these: liberalism ,communism, socialism,feminism, fascism, secularism, conservatism etc.etc...
    I recall Padre Pio saying something along the lines of "If the world did not have something bad to say of us we would not be christians"
     
  3. David

    David Well-Known Member

    This, for me, is rather a positive development I think. We now know that there is an organised opposition to Francis. This should lead people to ponder a little before buying into any of the false arguments going around. I actually think the devil may have shot himself in the foot with this. It is more likely to lead to an increased desire to support the Pope and defend him.
     
  4. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    Also, I just read: Bishop Schneider went on to recall St Maximilian Kolbe's recollections of the Freemasons' aggressive celebrations of their 200th anniversary in Rome during 1917, in the middle of the First World War. His Lordship related St Maximilian Kolbe's description of Freemasonry openly declaring war on the Catholic Church. The Freemason littered Rome with posters showing the Archangel Michael defeated on the ground trampled beneath a triumphant Lucifer.... As a consequence of witnessing the Freemasons' hostility towards the Church in 1917, St Maximilian Kolbe decided to found the Militia Immaculatae [The Knights of the Immaculate] to counteract the actions of Lucifer....

    https://www.ewtn.co.uk/news/europe/freemasonry-is-an-instrument-of-satan-says-bishop-schneider

    With this year being the 300th anniversary of the foundation of Freemasonry with the establishment of the first Grand Lodge in London .... could the Knights of Malta be planning a Freemasons 'revenge' because of the Knights of the Immaculate ??

    By re-enacting the distribution of posters (of Pope Francis rather than St Michael & Lucifer), it sounds very much like Freemason activity from 100 years ago - wonder what else they have planned before the election of a new grand master, expected in three months o_O
     
  5. Stephen

    Stephen Member

    Have to admit whilst I'm respectful of the Chair of Peter and the Papal Office, I have not looked favourably on some of the things he has said and how he has behaved towards the cardinals who created the Dubia. That said, there's no doubt that with behaviour like this ( Ie the posters ) is demonic. There is a progressive group in the church but the conservative ultra right wing groups are not exempt from criticism either and I sadly feel like there's another schism coming if we're not careful. We are supposed to be at the stage of uniting and not dividing further so its sad to see these things go on.
     

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