My Angel Daniel....and Uriel?

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by andree, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know anything about Uriel approaching Vassula in the early years along with Daniel? See this prayer of Vassula's below (emphasis is mine).

    Yahweh in His princely way
    has stooped down all the way to us
    to reach us;
    in His Majestic manner He brought us His Word
    like broad-spreading rivers on parched land;

    He is our Judge and our Lawgiver,
    the eyes who recognized Him
    and saw Him in this Love Song
    will no longer be closed;
    the ears of those who heard His Word
    will remain alert;
    and the lenient heart that accepted Him in contrition
    will learn integrity to honour Him;

    all glory be His, for ever and ever...

    two Princely Messengers from the highest ranks of Heaven
    came to me at first to approach me
    by the names of Daniel and Uriel;

    like ambassadors of peace they came to me,
    the totally unworthy one
    to make out of this soiled and dry earth 1
    a field of lilies and daffodils
    to be fitting to receive the Word of God...
    The above prayer is taken from the Message of February 28, 2006 here:

    I've been trying to find out more about Uriel and read that he appears in Ezra in some Orthodox bibles. Has Vassula has ever spoken about him?
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  2. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    Dear friends,

    I have found some information about Uriel in the old forum that I wanted to provide a link to it here. You'll see in that post that Uriel means "the fire or light of God, enlightener (3 Ezdras 5:20)"

    Robert, who used to post on that forum, posted this reply that he got from EWTN about angels, and I've put in blue the text that concerns Uriel:

    The list of the seven archangels is a rather convoluted one -- there are many different lists, ranging from apocryphal writings (such as the Books of Enoch)to that of Pseudo-Dionysius. I prefer to use the list compiled by Pseudo-Dionysius as it is probably the best researched, even if it does date to around the 6th century. Here goes: Uriel -- Fire of God Michael -- Who is as God Raphael -- God has Healed Gabriel -- God is My Strength Chamuel -- He Who Seeks God Zadkiel -- Righteousness of God Jophiel -- Beauty of God

    Now, of these, only Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel are mentioned in the Scriptures; others are referenced in apocryphal literature, as noted. Thus, the three alone are venerated by the Church. Uriel, of course, has been very popular historically. However, unlike the best known (Gabriel, Michael, and Raphael), however, his existence is not supported in any way by Scripture. He is thus attested to only in apocryphal writings such as the ones you mention in your question. Nevertheless, he was very popular throughout Jewish and Christian history, at least until 745 and a council in Rome that removed several angels from all recognized lists. Despite the official action of the Church, there persisted a fondness for Uriel, and his name appeared as St. Uriel in some areas, although he does not appear on the Calendar. The same can be said for the other non-Scripturally attested archangels.

    Now I wonder if the Uriel who appeared to Vassula is the same one referred to above? The TLIG message that I quoted in my first post says that Daniel and Uriel were from the "highest ranks of Heaven".

    If anyone knows more about this, please do post.
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  3. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    thanks andree .... after doing a google search, most of the images of Archangel Uriel are Orthodox. Wikipedia mentions references in the Jewish encyclopedia:
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  4. cadman

    cadman Member

    While reading recently, I was surprised to find Enoch mentioned in TLIG:

    "- Then in buying now the book of Enoch, which I always wanted, before I started to read it I opened it at page 102. Just like that, and what do I read? The same vision Enoch had as I had, the bright round Light, guarded by thousands of angels! 1 It was too much to be of a coincidence; because this vision I saw while in Bangladesh on March 26. Then on April 11, 1987 when I was in Paris, while searching for books in a library I stumbled on a book called Metanoia and what made me look at it was its cover. The picture of the cover was exactly my vision, Enoch's, and my brother in law's. The round light with the angels guarding it. After my sister left I wrote again letting God take my hand. God gave then Strato2 a written message.)"

    (From April 9, 1987)

    It seems credible that the Uriel mentioned could be the Archangel. Also another interesting passage from July 30, 1999:

    "and as I have said to you before, for your protection I have given you a multitude of angels and archangels, princes of the highest orders to accompany you in your mission; giving them orders to remain at those regions where My seeds were sown and protect what was sown;"
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  5. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    Yes, I was surprised to see this too. A few years ago, I felt a desire to read the book of Enoch and was hesitating because so many Catholic sources that say it has errors, etc. I prayed about it and opened TLIG to this very passage. Well that was the sign I needed to read it! It's a fascinating book.
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  6. cadman

    cadman Member

    Happy New year to everyone!

    Andree, that was an interesting story. And quite a direct answer to your prayer!

    I assume the vision is from Enoch 14:

    1. This is the book of the words of righteousness, and of the reproof of the Watchers, who belong to the world, according to that which He, who is holy and great, commanded in the vision. I perceived in my dream, that I was now speaking with a tongue of flesh, and with my breath, which the Mighty One has put into the mouth of men, that they might converse with it.

    2. And understand with the heart. As he has created and given to men the power of comprehending the word of understanding, so has he created and given to me the power of reproving the Watchers, the offspring of heaven. I have written your petition; and in my vision it has been shown me, that what you request will not be granted you as long as the world endures.

    3. Judgment has been passed upon you: your request will not be granted you.

    4. From this time forward, never shall you ascend into heaven; He has said, that on the earth He will bind you, as long as the world endures.

    5. But before these things you shall behold the destruction of your beloved sons; you shall not possess them, but they shall fall before you by the sword.

    6. Neither shall you entreat for them, nor for yourselves;

    7. But you shall weep and supplicate in silence. The words of the book which I wrote.

    8. A vision thus appeared to me.

    9. Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning impelled and pressed me forwards, while winds in the vision assisted my flight, accelerating my progress.

    10. They elevated me aloft to heaven. I proceeded, until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal. A vibrating flame surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror.

    11. Into this vibrating flame I entered;

    12. And drew nigh to a spacious habitation built also with stones of crystal. Its walls too, as well as pavement, were formed with stones of crystal, and crystal likewise was the ground. Its roof had the appearance of agitated stars and flashes of lightning; and among them were cherubim of fire in a stormy sky. A flame burned around its walls; and its portal blazed with fire. When I entered into this dwelling, it was hot as fire and cold as ice. No trace of delight or of life was there. Terror overwhelmed me, and a fearful shaking seized me.

    13. Violently agitated and trembling, I fell upon my face. In the vision I looked,

    14. And behold there was another habitation more spacious than the former, every entrance to which was open before me, erected in the midst of a vibrating flame.

    15. So greatly did it excel in all points, in glory, in magnificence, and in magnitude, that it is impossible to describe to you either the splendour or the extent of it.

    16. Its floor was on fire; above were lightnings and agitated stars, while its roof exhibited a blazing fire.

    17. Attentively I surveyed it, and saw that it contained an exalted throne;

    18. The appearance of which was like that of frost; while its circumference resembled the orb of the brilliant sun; and there was the voice of the cherubim.

    19. From underneath this mighty throne rivers of flaming fire issued.

    20. To look upon it was impossible.

    21. One great in glory sat upon it:

    22. Whose robe was brighter than the sun, and whiter than snow.

    23. No angel was capable of penetrating to view the face of Him, the Glorious and the Effulgent; nor could any mortal behold Him. A fire was flaming around Him.

    24. A fire also of great extent continued to rise up before Him; so that not one of those who surrounded Him was capable of approaching Him, among the myriads of ‘myriads who were before Him. To Him holy consultation was needless. Yet did not the sanctified, who were near Him, depart far from Him either by night or by day; nor were they removed from Him. I also was so far advanced, with a veil on my face, and trembling. Then the Lord with his own mouth called me, saying, Approach hither, Enoch, at my holy word.

    25. And He raised me up, making me draw near even to the entrance. My eye was directed to the ground.
  7. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    Perhaps that is the one. Vassula also mentions on April 9, 1987 that her vision and the one described in Enoch is the same one that St Hildegard had. Does anyone know which picture of the vision that Vassula is referring to?

    "- Then in buying now the book of Enoch, which I always wanted, before I started to read it I opened it at page 102. Just like that, and what do I read? The same vision Enoch had as I had, the bright round Light, guarded by thousands of angels! 1"

    1 Much later on, in 1996, a friend of mine sent me a picture of the vision that Saint Hildegard had and it was the same.
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  8. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    I tried unsuccessfully a few years ago to find the picture of St Hildegard's vision that Vassula was referring to, but there are so many of them that I couldn't identify the right one. From the text I quoted of Vassula above, she could be describing the picture below called the Choir of Angels.


    But then in the same message of April 9, 1987, she describes a vision given to her brother-in-law, which matches her own & that of St Hildegard, and she describes a garden in the centre of the vision.

    Then a miracle happened. God gave him the same vision I saw! The one of the beautiful garden and that 'sun' all round, guarded with millions of angels. God made him penetrate, like I did, inside that round light, and when he felt God's presence so close, he started to shiver and weep.

    So who knows? Mystics are blessed with so many visions, they really do live in another world while on earth.
  9. andree

    andree Well-Known Member

    I came across the work of Dr Christian Sasse and wanted to share a link to this amazing video of the milky way that he made. Does it not look like the painting of heaven that Hildegard produced above?

    After 15 seconds, you can see the image form. He posted this also on twitter and said the photos were taken from Australia at 60 minute intervals and the rotation shows the daily change of the night sky.

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