"Love Letter to the Church"

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by karnala, Apr 16, 2016.

  1. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    The Daughters of St Paul's emailing for this week is beautifully written and I wanted to post it in a different thread (although the pictures didn't copy):

    In these past few days we’ve all had our share of articles and comments and social media posts and tweets that have documented people’s “first reactions” to Amoris Laetitia: The Joy of Love. Now that that’s accomplished, we can get on with the deeper attention the document deserves.

    What is the document really going to give us for the long haul…I mean us, you and me, families, pastors, seminary rectors, neighbors, Pre-Cana programs, religious and retreat houses that serve families….. Of course, everyone wanted to find out immediately the answers to the questions that had been framed by the media as “the” issues on the family. And none of these were ignored in the document, although they were re-framed through the eyes of a pastor unafraid to focus on how to accompany families on the blessed and yet challenging lifelong journey of married life. But, as was said in a homily at the Mass in which I participated last Sunday, Amoris Laetitia is about much more, it is Pope Francis’ “love letter to the church”....

    So, realizing that the Post-Synodal Exhortation addresses many important issues, today I’ll just offer you some wise practical advice for the whole arc of family life excerpted from Chapter Six: Some Pastoral Perspectives. There's so much more in the document, as you can imagine, but today we'll just start here.

    Sr. Kathryn J. Hermes, FSP

    By saying “I do,” they embark on a journey that requires them to overcome all obstacles standing in the way of their reaching the goal. (218)

    Here let me say a word to fiancés. Have the courage to be different. Don’t let yourselves get swallowed up by a society of consumption and empty appearances. What is important is the love you share, strengthened and sanctified by grace. You are capable of opting for a more modest and simple celebration [of your wedding] in which love takes precedence over everything else. (212)

    [For your wedding] make the liturgical celebration a profound personal experience. (213)

    Nor would it be good for [the couple getting married] to arrive at the wedding without ever having prayed together, one for the other, to seek God’s help in remaining faithful and generous, to ask the Lord together what he wants of them….(216)

    [After the wedding] in joining their lives, the spouses assume an active and creative role in a lifelong project. Their gaze now has to be directed to the future that, with the help of God’s grace, they are daily called to build. (218)

    Each must set aside all illusions and accept the other as he or she actually is: an unfinished product, needing to grow, a work in progress. (218)

    The parish is a place where…experienced couples can help younger couples, with the eventual cooperation of associations, ecclesial movements and new communities. (223)

    Love needs time and space; everything else is secondary. Time is needed to talk things over, to embrace leisurely, to share plans, to listen to one another and gaze in each other’s eyes, to appreciate one another and to build a stronger relationship. (224)

    …[C]ouples should be encouraged to develop a routine that gives a healthy sense of closeness and stability through shared daily rituals. These could include a morning kiss, an evening blessing, waiting at the door to welcome each other home, taking trips together and sharing household chores. (227)

    We pastors…when visiting our people’s houses, we should gather all the members of the family and briefly pray for one another, placing the family in the Lord’s hands. It is also helpful to encourage each of the spouses to find time for prayer alone with God, since each has his or her secret crosses to bear. (228)

    Nowadays, pastoral care for families has to be fundamentally missionary, going out to where people are. (230)

    The love present from the beginning becomes more conscious, settled and mature as the couple discover each other anew day after day, year after year. Saint John of the Cross tells us that “old lovers are tried and true.” (231)

    The life of every family is marked by all kinds of crises, yet these are also part of its dramatic beauty…. Each crisis has a lesson to teach us; we need to learn how to listen for it with the ear of the heart. (232)

    Communication is an art learned in moments of peace in order to be practiced in moments of difficulty (234)
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  2. Radhe

    Radhe Well-Known Member

    karnala....Never was this more needed than now. I have noticed that the imagery of marriage and wedding and spouse is frequent in TLIG writing
    as it is in revelation...Marriage reflects in some mysterious profound way the love of God so marriage is Holy! Some great wisdom in that paragraph of yours.

    We know how much divorce there is is the world now and its the root cause of collapse of civilisation. There is so much divorce, there is an emerging reluctance to marry.
    this is a definite social trend...

    For anyone considering marriage I recommend

    "Three to Get Married" Fulton Sheen some quotes from the book below:

  3. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    Everything I posted above is from the Daughters of St Paul and Sr. Kathryn J. Hermes, FSP was inspired to write the paragraph. The nuns are very creative, as the pictures they included looked like 'flash cards'? with writings on them from Amoris Laetitia. They must have a copyright, because I couldn't located them on their website.

    Thanks for the link to Fulton Sheen (there could be a whole thread for discussion too) - he has such a profound knowledge of Catholic Theology, Christian denominations and world religions - like one of his quotes says: “The more clearly a man understands anything, the more readily he can summarize it in a few words.”

    When I was reading the quotes, I was reminded about Chastity which is a subject the Church teaches during RCIA. As a convert, I've never been able to understand why people raised as Catholics would remarry whilst divorced. A parishioner has said, I'd be a great advocate for the annulment process; because I was saying I had a lot of healing whilst waiting for my annulment. Even though I wasn't receiving Communion, I was attending RCIA, learning the Rosary, going to Church, Healing Masses, Holy Hours .... and drove especially to St Patrick's Church where the statue of Our Lady of Fatima was on pilgrimage, which still fills me with wonder.

    Chastity has been spoken about regarding LGBT attending Church also, and the end of the next quote I put in italics is about 'bearing fruit' not about terms of sex (“FREUDIANISM interprets man in terms of sex; Christianity interprets sex in terms of man”) and some are saying there should be no gender :confused:

    “Each instinct and passion of man is amoral; it is only the abuse of these passions that makes them wrong. There is nothing wrong about hunger, but there is something wrong about gluttony; there is no sin in thirst, but there is a sin in drunkenness; there is nothing wrong with a man who seeks economic security, but there is something wrong with a man who is avaricious; there is nothing to be despised in knowledge, but there is something to be condemned in pride; there is nothing wrong with the flesh, but there is something wrong in the abuse of the flesh. Just as dirt is matter in the wrong place, so sin is flesh in the wrong place. Sex has its place in that area of life designed for its fruition, but the misuse of it outside of that natural and supernatural bond is wrong.”
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  4. Radhe

    Radhe Well-Known Member

    karnala did not know you were a convert ;)That is why you are so good at this!
    I was raised catholic but I never before put the fervour I do now into prayers !

    TLIG was a grace that helped me enormously. I never married but I know and respect married people as the bedrock of civilsation, sad to report
    I saw nothing but divorce and break up of family everywhere. I lived Ireland England and Wales...80s--90s
    successful marriages have a spiritual dimension i.e. Jesus Christ must be at the Centre, and his Mother too.

    Old saying and so true :The family that prays together stays together...

    There are many worthwhile videos of Fulton Sheen full of Wisdom.he was prophetic and back in his day was loved and quoted by Jewish people, Protestants and many others.

    His writings on the Blessed Mother are just stunning he was very devoted to her and wrote a great book on her ;

  5. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    I converted in 1997, after reading a book about Medjugorje. I was receiving so many 'signs' from Heaven that I knew I was on the right path :)
    Even though I was a single mum when I converted, I heard that saying about a family who prays together, stays together and we used to have a 'Holy Hour' every evening before bedtime to pray the Rosary.
    In Medjugorje, when couples marry they hold a crucifix because they know they're taking on the cross of Jesus.

    I didn't know the Jews quoted Fulton Sheen's writings ..... we seem to have a lot more in common with the Jews than we realise. I notice this more with Vassula's messages too; after reading this on the TLIG website about being Recognizably Jewish:
  6. Radhe

    Radhe Well-Known Member

    "....TLIG website about being Recognizably Jewish" this is really awesome, kranala... this is the God of Abraham reaching out to us gentiles....the same God of Muslims Jews and Christians.
    Its time for unity time for Peace.

    Strange I have always been fascinated with the faith of our Jewish brothers and sisters... The Blessed Mother is Jewish, the Lord is Jewish after all, so Some day I hope to be blessed by a Rabbi
    The more friends we have in heaven the better.I recall Rabbi Lionel Blue used to write in catholic paper , which is great.

    There is of course massive healing and spiritual repentance,reparation needed for what happened the Jewish community in Europe. I dont know how this happens in the face of the horror of the Shoah
    (the holocaust.)
    God will find a way, the scale of abomination, of evil and of sin in the 20th century is so awful so massive as to be unpardonable. Only divine mercy could cover it.
    There is no man made solution the shambles of Europe at the moment is testament to this
  7. karnala

    karnala Well-Known Member

    I've never heard of Rabbi Lionel Blue before, but after researching him on the internet - it says he was on BBC Radio 4’s Thought for the Day :) There are lots of radio spots here for Church Ministries because its run by the Uniting Church.

    Rabbi Lionel Blue, on BBC Radio 4’s Thought for the Day, once told a story about a man who fell over the edge of a cliff; but managed to grab hold of a bush that grew halfway down. Hanging on grimly, looking at the abyss below and feeling his grip starting to slip, he decided that prayer was the only way out for him; so he called: ‘Is there anyone up there to help me?’ A deep, basso profundo, voice answered immediately, and said: ‘My child: trust Me. Let go of the bush, and I will hold you up, and save you’. The man, desperately holding on, looked up for a moment, looked down for a moment. He was very quiet for a while and then called out again: ‘Is there anyone else up there?’ ******************* We have a hard time letting go. I want to talk today about the word Erev, from the phrase on your cards, Erev va’voker ֶֽע ֶרב ָו ֹֽב ֶקר ְו ָצ ֳהָֽרִים – evening, morning and afternoon. I begin with that joke because so much of evening time is about letting go, and we don’t like to let go. Evening is not the same as night time, although the liturgist has only one word for that span of time between sunset and sunrise – evening can feel peaceful. It is a time when we wind down from the day, when a family can eat together, when the sun sets and beautiful color fills the sky, when we relax. But all that beauty takes place because night is coming, because darkness fills the world and sooner or later, at some point in the evening, we all need to let go. We all need to sleep......


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